Q&A:
‘I Need the Support of the People To Get the Big Fish’
Interview with Abdul Tejan Cole, head of Sierra Leone’s Anti Corruption Commission (ACC)
FREETOWN, Jan 14 (IPS) - Since assuming office last September, Sierra Leone’s new president, Ernest Bai
Koroma has publicly vowed to fight corruption. Koroma recently appointed
Abdul Tejan Cole as the Anti Corruption Commissioner.
IPS Correspondent Wurie Bah spoke to Cole in Freetown about the challenges
facing the commission in its fight against corruption in Sierra Leone:
IPS: What forms does corruption typically take in Sierra Leone?
Abdul Tejan Cole: Generally people just tend to feel corruption is more about
bribery. It is more than just bribery. It encompasses a whole range of others
issues including conflict of interest, lack of governance, processes and
procedure. It includes corrupt accusation of wealth, soliciting or accepting
what is referred to as an advantage, influencing contracts, corrupting public
officers, soliciting and accepting an advantage for a public officer, the
misappropriation of public funds, misappropriation of donor funds and
impeding foreign investment in Sierra Leone. These are broadly the forms of
corruption that are stated in the anticorruption act 2000.
IPS: How rampant is corruption in Sierra Leone?
ATC: We do not have reliable statistics as such, but from all the indications
we are getting from the relevant ministries it is said to be very very rampant
and if you consider the perception of lots of people in Sierra Leone as
reflected in the Transparency International corruption perception index it is
very rampant in Sierra Leone.
IPS: What specific strategies have your commission put in place to fight
corruption?
ATC: I think we are taking a three fronts approach. Prevention, Education, and
Prosecution. Prevention, by putting in place systems and mechanisms, to be
working with Government Ministries, Departments, and Agencies, to ensure
that they have proper systems and practices in place. Also prevention
includes declaration of assets for key public officials.
Education, I think the emphasis is really on educating the people of Sierra
Leone, about the ills and vices of corruption. But also about working with
integrity clubs in various schools, to ensure that the next generation of Sierra
Leonean leaders live up to the right moral standards expected of them.
Prosecution as a means of setting up a deterrent to committing the act of
corruption, and if possible to recover some of the proceeds of corruptions.
IPS: The public is often sceptical about the ACC because it always arrests the
ordinary man and the big fish gets away?
ATC: ‘Big fishes’ have been arrested by the commission, but really I do not
think it is for me to look at what happened in the past. I am looking forward
and I can assure the public that if any of the so-called ‘Big fishes’ commit
acts of corruption - and I have the evidence to prove it in the court of law -
- action would definitely be taken against them… That is why I need the
support of the people. We need to get people to report acts of corruption. We
need to get people to be engaged with the commission to ensure that we are
all in the fight against corruption. If I don’t have the necessary evidence and
people do not come forward to give the necessary evidence then
unfortunately these ‘Big Fishes’ will have to go scot-free. So the obligation
really is also on the people of Sierra Leone, the government and the various
key stakeholders to ensure that we have the necessary evidence to prosecute.
IPS: Did your predecessor fall victim to political interference?
ATC: I don’t know. That is my honest answer.
IPS: Is enough money being allocated to fighting corruption?
ATC: The answer is categorically, No!
IPS: A leading donor, the U.K.’s Department for International Development
(DfID), stopped funding the ACC after a damning annual review last May
found the commission had achieved little or no impact on reduction of real or
perceived levels of corruption. What are the latest developments?
ATC: We are talking with DfID and hopefully we will be able to ensure that
DfID can provide the necessary support it has been providing over the years
to the commission so that the commission can discharge its functions. DfID
support is absolutely necessary for us - we require it - the government of
Sierra Leone on its own cannot fund the commission. We need the support
not only of the DfID but other donors as well. My task really is to ensure that
we give the donors the necessary confidence they require.
IPS: Many donors attach stringent reporting procedures to the aid they
provide to developing nations. Why have these procedures not proved more
effective with preventing corruption in Sierra Leone?
ATC: I cannot comment on the government as a whole, but in terms of the
ACC, we have been meeting our reporting obligations. We have been
publishing annual reports - albeit sometimes long after the period - but I
think we have satisfied our reporting obligations.
IPS: Low salaries paid to officials in developing nations are said to be one of
the main reasons for public sector corruption. Do you think levels of graft
among Sierra Leonean civil servants can largely - even exclusively - be
attributed to low pay?
ATC: I do not think it can exclusively be related to low salaries. I think low
salaries can be one factor… there are so many causes of corruption that we
can look at in Sierra Leone. I think if we just simply concentrate on low
salaries we will not solve the problem of corruption. There are instances
where salaries have been increased in certain institutions and where the
corruption rate has still remained the same. So, in as much we address the
issue of low salaries we need to look at other issues. The general attitudes of
people need to change. The whole question of the economic decline, lack of
governance structure within the system, the collapse of moral value within
the country needs to be revised.
IPS: Do Sierra Leone's laws facilitate effective investigation of graft cases? For
instance, can investigators compel banks to reveal details about accounts that
might have received suspicious transfers?
ATC: The ACC Act is quite clear in terms of what we can do. Yes, we can
compel heads of banks and departments to produce statements. If the need
arises we will do it. We have been doing it in the past and we will continue
doing it.
IPS: What’s the level of collaboration between the ACC and the attorney
general’s office?
ATC: We started off on good footing. We have held meetings, had discussions
and hope it continues this way. I enjoy the confidence of the attorney general.
He enjoys my confidence and I think really the future is bright.
(END/2008)
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