| Mario Soares
'War may spark a great crisis of capitalism'
By Mario Osava
The world sits on the edge of the abyss for two reasons:
the war Washington is threatening against Iraq and the economic
recession that is a symptom of the crisis of capitalism, says
Mario Soares, European MP and former Portuguese president.
It is time to discuss a new global social contract that preserves
the UN and is based on the rights already established in international
conventions, asserts the honorary president of the Socialist
International who served as Portugal's president during two
consecutive mandates (1986-1996) and as prime minister three
times between 1976 and 1985. He spoke at the WSF Dialogue
and Controversy Roundtable on globalisation and world governance,
and brought with him a peace manifesto signed by Portuguese
personalities from across the philosophical and political
spectrums.
Does the growth of the World Social Forum reflect a crisis
in the political parties?
Yes. The collapse of the communist world has made the socialist
and social-democratic parties internalise this defeat, although
it hasn’t been a defeat for socialism. They started
to move towards neoliberalism, adopting certain neoliberal
expressions and ideas. This has been most visible with (British
Prime Minister Tony) Blair and his "third way",
an approach I don't support. Left-leaning people haven't felt
represented by the socialists anymore, or they feel they are
insufficiently represented by the political parties, which
in turn has stimulated new forms of expression and participation.
Thus the success of the World Social Forum, which I have followed
from the start. But I think socialist parties must be present
in this field of social and environmental struggles.
But the WSF is a space for social movements, and political
parties do not play a role here.
Social movements cannot replace political parties, which
are essential to democracy. Political representation can only
be achieved by voting, not by activism. Lula is the best example
of this; he got to be president as leader of the Workers Party
(PT), and made this point very clear in his speech on Friday.
There is no democracy without parties, but the parties do
not encompass all of democracy. There are other forms of citizenship,
particularly non-governmental organisations. The WSF cannot
be more than an apolitical social power, because political
power requires legitimacy through popular voting. The Forum
also provokes reflections about policy, which is what we did
in the Roundtable (What kind of globalisation, and how should
the world be governed?). It might feed political parties new
ideas, and that is why socialists must be present in the unions,
in the social and environmental movements, which are the ones
that mobilise today’s masses.
And how do the institutions, the state, come out? Aren’t
they undergoing a decline as well?
Those who attack the state the most are large multinational
companies, which no longer have national ties, they have no
face. We don’t know who runs them anymore, they are
anonymous and their sole objective is profit, and more profit.
The state ensures security, well-being and development for
its citizens, and therefore we cannot align ourselves with
those who fight it. It is the neoliberals who want a reduced
role for the state. I have always believed that there are
economic sectors that must not be privatised, which are strategic
for the state, such as health, education, justice, and social
security, as well as energy and water, which is a public asset
and a human right.
But the state should not try be everything, or it will suffocate
social life. A mistake the communists did was to make the
state overly present in the economy, which causes stagnation.
In a country of public servants there is no freedom, and creativity
dies out. But, I am in favour of regional blocs, and the sharing
of sovereignty in a European state. I am in favour of a European
army, a common currency, and a common foreign policy. This
means limiting the sovereignty of national states, but in
another dimension and positioning in the world. It is a voluntary
sharing. This would also hold true for South America.
Would it be true for the whole of the Americas? For the Free
Trade Area of the Americas (FTAA)?
No, the FTAA is a way for the United States to dominate Latin
America even more than it does already. That is why I am a
strong critic of the fact of the European Union has not backed
Mercosur (Southern Common Market – Argentina, Brazil,
Paraguay and Uruguay), and for petty reasons like the Common
Agricultural Policy (which protects and subsides European
farmers, blocking imports from other countries, reducing markets
and pushing down prices).
Do you consider it positive that Lula went to Davos?
That was a masterstroke, it shows great flair. He was invited,
accepted the invitation, and has taken the message of the
people in Porto Alegre to Davos. He will say no to war, defend
programmes to fight poverty, demand more attention to the
Third World, to children, to social problems, and will say
no to high interest rates and capital gains.
Does Lula's attempt at international dialogue come at the
right time? Does it arise from the necessity to negotiate
a new global contract?
Yes, it's time to talk about a new global contract. The world
is undergoing a grave situation due to two greatly urgent
matters: the threat of a war that must be avoided and the
economic recession that could turn into the great crisis of
capitalism, and which could be accelerated by the war.
As we confront this emergency, we must set priorities. One
of them is not attacking the United Nations. The UN is imperfect;
its Security Council does not represent the world, but the
winners of World War II. Excluded are Japan, Germany, Brazil,
India, and maybe South Africa. But the UN does represent the
international legal system, which we cannot put at risk. You
cannot let every good thing we achieved in the 20th century
go to waste, such as the conventions that protect human rights,
and the rights of women, children, workers, access to health:
in short, all related to the UN, which must be valued and
not destroyed. A social contract is needed, yes, but based
on what has already been achieved, which now is at risk. The
United States has set out to marginalize the UN, and the creation
of the G-8 (the group of eight most industrialised countries),
which lacks legitimacy, is a part of this scheme.
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