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RIGHTS-CHINA: ‘Give Uyghurs a Chance to Live in Peace’ Catherine Makino interviews REBIYA KADEER, president of the World Uyghur Congress TOKYO, Nov 3 (IPS) - Following the bloody clashes in July in Urumqi, the capital of the restive
Xingjian region in China, activist Rebiya Kadeer found herself in the midst of
another controversy, having been accused by the Chinese government of
instigating the riots.
The violent incidents stemmed from an incident in June when a brawl broke
out between Uyghur and Han workers at a toy factory in Guangdong province
in southern China. The Han are China's majority ethnic group.
In 1953 the Uyghurs made up 75 percent of Xingjian's population, but their
population has dwindled to 45 percent since the Han Chinese moved into the
area. Urumqui is now 70 percent Han, resulting in a lot of resentment among
the Uyghurs, especially in the capital city.
Rebiya Kadeer, president of the Washington-based World Uyghur Congress
(WUC), denies having been behind the riots that left nearly 200 dead and
more than a thousand injured.
The WUC is a federation of exile groups claiming to represent the interests of
the Uyghurs inside and outside their homeland in the Xingjian Autonomous
Region of northwest China, which is rich in mineral resources and of strategic
importance to Beijing.
The 11 million-strong Uyghurs are a predominantly Muslim minority in China,
which has been subject to systematic oppression by the Chinese government.
Kadeer, 62, was in prison for six years after criticising the Chinese
government for its policies in Xingjian, and freed in 2005 after pressure from
the Bush Administration. She then moved to the United States and lives in
Virginia.
Dubbed "the millionaires," Kadeer has been ranked China’s 34th richest
person with a fortune of 25 million U.S dollars. Until her falling out with
Beijing, she was on China’s top political body—National People's Consultative
Conference—representing the people who were not members of the
Communist Party.
Her third visit to Japan last week to speak at universities and before non-
profit groups coincided with the publication of her biography in Japanese.
Reporter Catherine Makino caught up with her on Friday in Tokyo.
IPS: What have you been able to accomplish for your people?
REBIYA KADEER: I brought optimism and encouragement to my nation.
My people are always worrying about China’s ethnic policy. Many Uyghurs
have been killed, and they are anxious about being driven out from their
lands.
We need one voice, and my voice is my nation’s voice. I travel around world
and ask the international community to protect the Uyghurs. I explain our
problems to the world.
IPS: But how can your voice be heard when your people cannot reach you
by Internet or by phone?
RK: We can’t contact them by international phone or Internet. In fact, more
than 1,500 sites have been closed and their members arrested. They hear my
words through Radio Free Asia [which interviewed her in Tokyo]. Some people
in Shanghai and Beijing hear my voice and then send it inside Xinjiang.
IPS: What do you hope to achieve in the next few years for your people?
RK: I want the release of 10,000 political prisoners from jail in Xinjiang, and
to stop the torture and random killing of the Uyghurs. I want Chinese groups
who are roaming the streets killing Uyghurs for no reason to stop. I also want
Uyghur women to be returned back to Xingjian.
IPS: What do you mean by the "women to be returned back"?
RK: China moved more than 300,000 girls between the ages of 14 and 25
outside the Xinjiang province to work and assimilate into Chinese society.
Some were sent to factories while beautiful girls are sent to work in hotels
and bars. The Chinese government says it’s for economic opportunities, but
it’s not true.
The girls are miserable and crying. They don’t have any freedom and have no
contact with their families. They are supported [by the government] if they
want to marry inside China.
Maybe the riots of July 2009 happened because of this policy.
IPS: Are more Han Chinese coming to Xinjiang?
RK: Yes, every day more and more Chinese migrants are coming to live in
Xinjiang. They are the ones who reap the economic benefits.
I believe there are 20 million people comprised of various ethnic groups living
in Xingjian and 10 million Han Chinese, although the Chinese government
denies it.
The Chinese government must change their ethnic policy. I hope they will
come on the table and talk with us. We want self-determination.
IPS: But the Chinese government alleges you have terrorist links—reason
perhaps why Taiwan refused to give you a visa?
RK: It wasn’t the Taiwanese people, it was some people in their government
with ties to the Chinese government—the Chinese told them I was a terrorist.
I never ever had any links to terrorism. I am against all terrorists groups.
IPS: Why then are they claiming you are a terrorist?
RK: Because people are listening to my voice and I’m telling them the reality
about what’s going on in my country. The Chinese government wants to stop
my voice. They can influence other countries by telling them I’m a terrorist.
I am a Muslim, so it is easy for them to say I am a terrorist, and maybe some
people in other countries will believe it. They also say the Uyghurs are
terrorists. More than 10,000 are in jail accused of being terrorists.
IPS: Is that what happened to the author of the short story ‘Wild Pigeon’?
He was sentenced in 2005 to ten years in jail for inciting Uyghur separatism.
RK: Yes. Nurmuhemmet Yasin wrote a about a young pigeon—the son of a
pigeon king trapped and caged by humans when he ventured far from home.
In the end, he committed suicide rather than sacrifice his freedom.
Yasin wrote about freedom, so the Chinese government put him in prison for
talking about it. They branded him a terrorist.
IPS: You used your wealth to provide for your fellow Uyghurs’ education,
employment and training through various programmes. You ran the 1,000
Families Mothers’ Project that helped women start businesses. Now that you
are in exile, what is happening with these programmes?
RK: The Chinese government completely destroyed and stopped my
programmes. Our children can’t study and our people can’t get jobs.
I hope [U.S.] President Obama will talk to China about the Uighur’s problems.
IPS: Since you are living in the U.S. now, are you worried about being
assassinated? You were surrounded by heavy security in Japan.
RK: Yes, I worry about my security and I don’t feel safe. In fact, when I was in
America, I was involved in a car accident.
IPS: Are you saying the Chinese were responsible for the accident?
RK: Maybe. The Chinese are always giving me trouble. I’m not an enemy of
the Chinese people or the government. I am only asking for the Chinese
government to give the Uyghurs a chance to live our lives in peace.
IPS: How do you feel about having lost your businesses and living in
exile?
RK: I am not sad and I don’t regret anything. I am so happy that I opened the
international community to the Uyghur voice.
IPS: Having sacrificed a lot for your people, what else are you willing to
do for them?
RK: I hope to travel around the world to explain Uyghurs’ problems, so they
will begin to support our issues. I hope the whole world support our people’s
rights.
(END/2009)
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