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		<title>Q&#038;A: &#8220;Poverty Kills Women&#8217;s Awareness&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 12:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Liza Jansen</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><font color="#999999"><p class="wp-caption-text">Liza Jansen interviews NEZHA GUESSOUSS, former member of the Morocco Family Law Reform Commission</p></font></p><p>By Liza Jansen<br />UNITED NATIONS, Dec 14 2009 (IPS) </p><p>Five years ago, Morocco amended its family law to promote the idea of equality between men and women.<br />
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<p>Nezha Guessouss, a member of the reform commission that brought the new code from inception to passage, considers it a true success story, although she notes that many women – especially those who are poor – have yet to secure their new rights.</p>
<p>&#8220;The law doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean there is equality in Morocco,&#8221; Guessouss told IPS this month, amid celebrations at U.N. headquarters surrounding the 30th anniversary of the landmark Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women (CEDAW).</p>
<p>Since King Mohammed VI adopted the law, the Mudawana, in January 2004, the legal marriage age for girls was raised from 15 to 18; a woman can ask for a divorce in court without her husband&#8217;s approval; and men are only allowed to have a second, third or fourth wife if they can prove it necessary for procreation and guarantee every wife the same quality of life, as written in the Quran.</p>
<p>Currently a professor at the Medical School of Casablanca, Guessouss told IPS that despite its revolutionary reforms, much of the family law&#8217; code remains taboo in Morocco. Excerpts from the interview follow.<br />
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<strong>Q: Morocco&#8217;s revised family code was groundbreaking. What was your role? </strong> A: I contributed to this whole process from the beginning, being a human being and women&#8217;s rights activist. From the early 1970s, I&#8217;ve been involved in actions and protests.</p>
<p>The Moroccan Family Law Advisory board was nominated by the king, and for a reason I will never know, I was nominated.</p>
<p>For the first time, women were involved in a commission in a Muslim country drafting a family law. Three women were on the commission, and I think the rationale was that one was a scientist &#8211; which I am &#8211; one was a social scientist, and the third one was a lawyer.</p>
<p><strong>Q: What was the greatest challenge in drafting the law and ensuring it would pass? </strong> A: Everything, 100 percent of what we did was a very big challenge. You have to sit down with all these people from different [theological] backgrounds, trying to introduce some modern rationality in the discussion because you have to move from a law in which all the power is in hands of men, and allow a principle of equality. You can imagine how large the gap is.</p>
<p>It was very hard, there were a lot of fights and public demonstrations going on, but it worked. Still, it is only a step, a lot remains to be done.</p>
<p><strong>Q: According to Fatiha Layadi, a member of the Moroccan Parliament, the new freedoms for women are not without controversy and educated women are still considered a threat by many Muslim men. How do you see this? </strong> A: That&#8217;s true, but I am not sure if it needs to be related to Muslims or Islam. I think it is much more linked to tradition. Islam is not our only culture, it is part of our culture.</p>
<p>There is a lot of women&#8217;s poverty and a lot of women are not aware of their rights, because poverty kills awareness. For example, the family law says women can ask for a divorce, getting it in a maximum of six months. But if she hasn&#8217;t got a job or anywhere to go, how is she able to enjoy her right?</p>
<p>I have never faced any discrimination, but I am very privileged because of my educational background. Educated women are in a position in which they can ask for their rights and are sure their rights will not be violated.</p>
<p>Under Moroccan law, for example, men and women have [job] equality. Unfortunately, it does not always work like that in reality.</p>
<p><strong>Q: How much more do wealthy people in the country benefit from the law? </strong> A: The law definitely is a little elitist. Educated women, in the position of getting a job, earning money to buy a house, aware of the provisions of the law and able to pay a lawyer to defend them, can much more benefit from the law then poor, uneducated, jobless women who are dependent on their husband, father or brother.</p>
<p>But the eternal question is: should the law wait until the situation is correct to be changed, or is the law one of the ways to change the situation?&#8217;</p>
<p>I think we did both in Morocco. We had to wait almost 30 years after the old law was proclaimed. During those years, women&#8217;s position drastically changed. One out of 20 Moroccan families in the country is currently headed by a woman: the wife, the mother, the sister or any other woman.</p>
<p><strong>Q: Have you seen any change in your personal life since the law has been implemented? </strong> A: As a major change in my environment, I would say that in general women feel better protected and are more confident, even those who don&#8217;t know the provisions of the law or cannot benefit from it.</p>
<p>However, I personally still know a lot of women who have been suffering for a long time trying to [obtain a] divorce but did not get it.</p>
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